Smithsonian Podcast: There's More to That
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How the Osage Changed Martin Scorsese's Mind About "Killers of the Flower Moon"
A true-life saga involving organized crime, racial prejudice, and evolving American identity, David Grann’s nonfiction book Killers of the Flower Moon: The Osage Murders and the Birth of the F.B.I. seemed at first glance like a perfect fit for director Martin Scorsese. But when Jim Gray, a former chief of the Osage Nation, and other Osage leaders invited him to Oklahoma to hear their concerns, Scorsese came. Scorsese listened. And then he rewrote and reconfigured his cinematic adaptation.
In this episode, journalist Sandra Hale Schulman walks me through a brief history of how Native Americans have been depicted in a century’s worth of movies. Then, Chief Gray tells me about his personal connection to Killers of the Flower Moon, and how the Osage persuaded Scorsese to rethink his new film.
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