Nikita Khrushchev Goes to Hollywood
Lunch with the Soviet leader was Tinseltown's hottest ticket, with famous celebrities including Marilyn Monroe and Dean Martin
- By Peter Carlson
- Smithsonian magazine, July 2009, Subscribe
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Skouras may have sounded funny, but he was a serious businessman with a classic American success story. Son of a Greek shepherd, he had immigrated to America at 17, settling in St. Louis, where he sold newspapers, bused tables and saved his money. With two brothers, he invested in a movie theater, then another, and another. By 1932, he was managing a chain of 500 theaters. A decade later, he was running 20th Century Fox. "In all modesty, I beg you to look at me," he said to Khrushchev from the dais. "I am an example of one of those immigrants who, with my two brothers, came to this country. Because of the American system of equal opportunities, I am now fortunate enough to be president of 20th Century Fox."
Like so many other after-dinner orators on Khrushchev's trip, Skouras wanted to teach him about capitalism: "The capitalist system, or the price system, should not be criticized, but should be carefully analyzed—otherwise America would never have been in existence."
Skouras said he'd recently toured the Soviet Union and found that "warm-hearted people were sorrowful for the millions of unemployed people in America." He turned to Khrushchev. "Please tell your good people there is no unemployment in America to worry about."
Hearing that, Khrushchev could not resist heckling. "Let your State Department not give us these statistics about unemployment in your country," he said, raising his palms in a theatrical gesture of befuddlement. "I'm not to blame. They're your statistics. I'm only the reader, not the writer."
That got a laugh from the audience.
"Don't believe everything you read," Skouras shot back. That got a laugh, too.
When Skouras sat down, Lodge stood up to introduce Khrushchev. While the ambassador droned on about America's alleged affection for Russian culture, Khrushchev heckled him, plugging a new Soviet movie.
"Have you seen They Fought for Their Homeland?" the premier called out. "It is based on a novel by Mikhail Sholokhov."
"No," Lodge said, a bit taken aback.
"Well, buy it," said Khrushchev. "You should see it."
Smiling, the dictator stepped to the dais and invited the stars to visit the Soviet Union: "Please come," he said. "We will give you our traditional Russian pies."
He turned to Skouras—"my dear brother Greek"—and said he was impressed by his capitalist rags-to-riches story. But then he topped it with a communist rags-to-riches story. "I started working as soon as I learned how to walk," he said. "I herded cows for the capitalists. That was before I was 15. After that, I worked in a factory for a German. Then I worked in a French-owned mine." He paused and smiled. "Today, I am the premier of the great Soviet state."
Now it was Skouras' turn to heckle. "How many premiers do you have?"
"I will answer that," Khrushchev replied. He was premier of the whole country, he said, and then each of the 15 republics had its own premier. "Do you have that many?"
"We have two million American presidents of American corporations," Skouras replied.
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Comments (7)
I heard on the TV early that Sunday morning that the Premier's train would be on its way North through Chatsworth in the San Fernando Valley. I ran for the railroad tracks and saw a helicopter fly over, then a single diesel engine, and then the train, with USSR flags hanging from the observation deck at the end of the train. Even as a nine year old, I was impressed.
Posted by Rev. Charles Bunnell on September 19,2012 | 11:20 PM
In 1959 I was a Shoe Salesman at Hollywood, CA. At the time of the motorcade from Hollywood north to the ACLA Campus, they passed right in front of our Leeds Shoe Store located at the foot of the campus on Westwood Blvd. Hardly anyone even went outside the local stores to witness the motorcade. Please note! In an interview later in the day Khrushchev said he was disturbed by the amount of automobiles occupied by only a single person. This wasteful, must conserve he stated through an interpretor
Fifty years ago. An experience for sure! Thanks for the article!
Bob Bedford
Posted by Bob Bedfford on September 26,2009 | 11:38 PM
His comment "we will bury you" was a mis translation of an old Russian saying, "we will still be around after you are gone." meaning "we will outlast you." It was not a threat, but was purposely misquoted to be one.
Posted by Dave on July 12,2009 | 07:41 PM
When I was six years old, growing up in Pittsburgh, we went to see Khruschev's drive along the Pittsburgh Parkway from the airport. Climbed a hill for what seemed for hours. Having leaned back-against 1st-floor hallways during bomb drills with heads down and necks covered - was scared to death, I had NO idea what this occasion was.
There's an anecdote about Nikita stripping a Rolex watch from his wrist and giving it to a steelworker at the Homestead Mill. Believe it to be true, although he was also good at banging shoes on the table as he declared, "We will bury you."
David Helmick
Posted by David Helmick on July 12,2009 | 05:51 PM
Important lesson in the limitations of "personal diplomacy" and the realities of diplomacy.
Khruschev got a personal look at American life, saw the productivity and happiness of our country.
Just a few years later, he met the Kennedy in Vienna, judged him naive, and decided to "test" the US with the Cuban missile provocation.
No lasting insights into America, no "goodwill" built by his earlier visit. Just the hard truths of power and international rivalry.
Our State department should learn that lesson well.
Posted by Robert Arvanitis on July 8,2009 | 02:46 PM
I read this article while exercising at a therapy center.
Subject: Nikita In Hollywood
This is a superb article. it clarified some things about this visit that I had been puzzled about, such as no visit to Disenyworld.
You should have mentioned the Russian speaking immigrants, while they came from Russsia they were not ethnic Russsians. They spent their time tactlesly needling Krushev about the Soviet Union . Whereupon he stated that the plane that brought him here could easily bring him back to the Soviet Union. He also said that these people were not Real Russians
Thanks again for a most interesting article.
Warm regards,
Lionel Issen
Posted by Lionel Issen on July 1,2009 | 02:22 PM
Several years ago I was stationed at Vandenberg Air Force Base in Southern California. The oldheads there told a slightly different story of Kruschev's aborted trip to Disneyland. According to them, when Walt Disney was approached about the visit he refused it. When asked why, the answer was words to the effect, "It's my place goddammit, and I don't want to let that red S.O.B in it!"
Since Kruschev couldn't go down the coast to the Magic Kingdom, he went up it instead. A passenger rail line still runs through the air base, which at the time was a nuclear missile test facility. As the party rolled along the dunes, there standing at attention for the man who commanded the world's other superpower and had intoned "We will bury you" was a trio of Atlas ICBMs, erect in their gantries, fuming liquid oxygen, at the ready.
Posted by D.W. on June 27,2009 | 10:59 AM