Content ID:
Field:


  • About Smithsonian
  • Email Updates
  • Member Services
  • Shop
  • Archive
Smithsonian.com
  • Smithsonian Institution
  • Smithsonian Channel
  • goSmithsonian
  • Air & Space magazine
  • Home
  • History & Archaeology
  • People & Places
  • Science & Nature
  • Arts & Culture
  • Travel
  • Photos & Videos
  • Games & Puzzles
  • Subscribe
  • Art & Artists
  • Music & Literature
  • Photo of the Day
  • Smithsonian Institution
  • Trends & Traditions
Christo and Jeanne-Claude Installation artists Christo and Jeanne-Claude.

Wolfgang Volz / LAIF / Redux

  • Arts & Culture

Q and A: Christo and Jeanne-Claude

The world-famous installation artists responsible for The Gates and Running Fence discuss the upcoming Smithsonian exhibit about their works

  • By Anika Gupta
  • Smithsonian magazine, December 2008

Article Tools

 
  • Font
  • Share/Save/Bookmark Share
     
  • Email
  •  
  • Print
  • Digg Digg
     
  • Comments
  • StumbleUpon StumbleUpon
     
  • RSS
  • Reddit Reddit
     

    Q and A: Wanda Jackson

    Kenneth R. Fletcher

    In the 1950s, Wanda Jackson was one of the first women to record rock 'n' roll.

    Related Links

    Christo and Jeanne-Claude Website

    Most Popular

    • Viewed
    • Emailed
    1. The Ultimate Spy Plane
    2. Photo Contest Grand Prize Winner - In the early morning, fishermen clean their nets by Erhai Lake
    3. Catching a Wave, Powering an Electrical Grid?
    4. Photo Contest Finalist - A mountain dwarfs a passenger boat in the Three Gorges area of the Yangzi River
    5. Photo Contest Finalist - Ganga Arati
    6. Photo Contest Finalist - After a hard night's work at sea, a fisherman collects the rope that ties the nets
    7. Photo Contest Travel Winner - Dining in Gion
    8. Photo Contest Finalist - Erik in the World’s Greatest Store
    9. Frank Baum, the Man Behind the Curtain
    10. Photo Contest Finalist - Michel Frazier plays in the fields next to her trailer
    1. There Oughta Be a Law
    2. Frank Baum, the Man Behind the Curtain
    3. Photo Contest Grand Prize Winner - In the early morning, fishermen clean their nets by Erhai Lake
    4. Terra Cotta Soldiers on the March
    5. Catching a Wave, Powering an Electrical Grid?
    6. High Hopes for a New Kind of Gene
    7. Up in Arms Over a Co-Ed Plebe Summer
    8. The Ultimate Spy Plane
    9. Photo Contest Finalist - Jujing Village
    10. Photo Contest Finalist - Walk on Water

    In 1976, installation artists Christo and Jeanne-Claude built Running Fence, a 24.5-mile fabric divide that sliced through Northern California's Sonoma and Marin counties. They spoke with Anika Gupta about a forthcoming Smithsonian exhibit on the project.

    Why did you choose Northern California as the site for Running Fence?
    Christo: The moisture [in Marin County] creates this lovely light and beautiful fog. In the morning, the mist rolls forward from the ocean and the fence becomes invisible, part of the mist. Then the mist rolls back. So throughout the day the fence is constantly appearing and disappearing.

    Running Fence stretched across private land, most of which belonged to 59 ranchers. How did you get them to agree to let you use their land?
    Jeanne-Claude: I was standing in this one kitchen and the rancher kept saying to me, "The fence has no purpose." So I told him, "A work of art needs no purpose, it is beautiful." But he was not totally convinced. Then, as he led me to the door, I saw these little green leaves by his front stoop. "What did you plant here, lettuce or radishes?" I asked. "Those are flowers," he explained. "But you cannot eat flowers!" I responded. And he said, "Honey, I got the message."

    What was your reaction when the Smithsonian American Art Museum purchased the Running Fence documentary and related photos and drawings?
    Christo: We were very excited, of course. We were eager that the project stay in the United States, and that it remain a complete story.

    You later encountered very vocal opposition to the project. Why?
    Jeanne-Claude: The opposition said that the things we did were not art. Someone even claimed that we were Soviet spies building a marker for missiles. We later realized the local artists saw us as an invasion of their turf, which is quite a human response.

    Running Fence is not the first of your projects to be featured in a documentation exhibition. How did the possibility of an exhibition change your artistic process?
    Christo: At the beginning of the project, we kept 60 of the early sketches for the exhibition. We also kept a scale model [68 feet long]. At one point, we promised the ranchers that they could keep all the fence materials after "Running Fence" was done. But we kept one of the poles and one of the fabric panels ourselves for the exhibition.

    When you called your project Running Fence, were you thinking of the role that fences play in the West?
    Christo: No. At first we were going to call the project the Divide, after the Continental Divide, because that is what inspired us to build it. We were up in the Rocky Mountains and we saw the sunrise over the Continental Divide. But then we thought, Divide is too unfriendly a word. We wanted to link the suburban, urban and highway cultures in California together rather than separate them. Also, that name was vague. We prefer very descriptive titles. So then we chose "Running Fence."

    Jeanne-Claude: We do not think of it as a fence. It does not have a beginning and an end. It has two extremities, like a person.

    In 1976, installation artists Christo and Jeanne-Claude built Running Fence, a 24.5-mile fabric divide that sliced through Northern California's Sonoma and Marin counties. They spoke with Anika Gupta about a forthcoming Smithsonian exhibit on the project.

    Why did you choose Northern California as the site for Running Fence?
    Christo: The moisture [in Marin County] creates this lovely light and beautiful fog. In the morning, the mist rolls forward from the ocean and the fence becomes invisible, part of the mist. Then the mist rolls back. So throughout the day the fence is constantly appearing and disappearing.

    Running Fence stretched across private land, most of which belonged to 59 ranchers. How did you get them to agree to let you use their land?
    Jeanne-Claude: I was standing in this one kitchen and the rancher kept saying to me, "The fence has no purpose." So I told him, "A work of art needs no purpose, it is beautiful." But he was not totally convinced. Then, as he led me to the door, I saw these little green leaves by his front stoop. "What did you plant here, lettuce or radishes?" I asked. "Those are flowers," he explained. "But you cannot eat flowers!" I responded. And he said, "Honey, I got the message."

    What was your reaction when the Smithsonian American Art Museum purchased the Running Fence documentary and related photos and drawings?
    Christo: We were very excited, of course. We were eager that the project stay in the United States, and that it remain a complete story.

    You later encountered very vocal opposition to the project. Why?
    Jeanne-Claude: The opposition said that the things we did were not art. Someone even claimed that we were Soviet spies building a marker for missiles. We later realized the local artists saw us as an invasion of their turf, which is quite a human response.

    Running Fence is not the first of your projects to be featured in a documentation exhibition. How did the possibility of an exhibition change your artistic process?
    Christo: At the beginning of the project, we kept 60 of the early sketches for the exhibition. We also kept a scale model [68 feet long]. At one point, we promised the ranchers that they could keep all the fence materials after "Running Fence" was done. But we kept one of the poles and one of the fabric panels ourselves for the exhibition.

    When you called your project Running Fence, were you thinking of the role that fences play in the West?
    Christo: No. At first we were going to call the project the Divide, after the Continental Divide, because that is what inspired us to build it. We were up in the Rocky Mountains and we saw the sunrise over the Continental Divide. But then we thought, Divide is too unfriendly a word. We wanted to link the suburban, urban and highway cultures in California together rather than separate them. Also, that name was vague. We prefer very descriptive titles. So then we chose "Running Fence."

    Jeanne-Claude: We do not think of it as a fence. It does not have a beginning and an end. It has two extremities, like a person.


     
    Comments

    I have referred my Art students to this site.

    Posted by RUTH CANAWAY on November 27,2008 | 12:47AM

    In february of 2005, my wife and I were fortunate to experience "THE GATES" in Central Park, N.Y.C. The 7,500 gates were amazing. It totally transformed the park into a wonderland of saffron color. I was given a piece of the vinyl used in the project and it serves as a reminder of what a memorable experience it was. I look forward to the possibility of a new installation from Christo and Jean-claude.

    Posted by JOHN ROPPOLO on December 6,2008 | 03:54PM

    I was fortunate to meet these two artists in Austin TX where they had come to open an exhibit of some of their smaller, room-sized "wraps" at the Austin Museum of Art. What a friendly, delightful, down-to-earth couple.

    Posted by Jack Hanna on December 17,2008 | 03:09PM

    I experienced Christo's Umbrellas in California many years ago and must say what a sight it was to see the hills dotted with yellow umbrellas. I was only sorry to see them taken down because of the many people to never experience them. Christo's work is something to experience. He and Jeanne Claude are one of kind. Bravo for enriching the lives of so many with art!!

    Posted by Michele Mazzei on December 17,2008 | 05:35PM

    In looking at the comments, I realize that while each of these projects is an art object, the sum total of Christo and Jean-Claude's work is a great collection of and exploration of art. I look forward to seeing it all come together in an exhibit of all their work.

    Posted by ava jaipuria on December 29,2008 | 09:46AM

    I love all of Christo aand Jean-Claude's works. I would love to have a video of all of their works, one where I may look and gaze and ponder and peruse, not having to hurry through the fast peeks that we get on the news. It is a beautiful thing to see the shared love they have for their various works. Please see if there is a possibility of seeing all their works at my leisure in my home. May God bless them for their endeavors for they have surely shared their love of art with the the world. Susan

    Posted by Susan D Fraser on December 30,2008 | 06:25PM

    I have become very interesrted and excited about a forthcomming project lacated in Colorao. Its called the Over the River project on the Arkansas River. I am a supporter and think the project will be a great art exibit to show people the beauty of Colorado..Wishing well. Edith Rayer

    Posted by Edith Rayer on February 23,2009 | 11:41AM

    Im the first local youth Christo and Jeanne - Clauded hired for the survey party of the future Running Fence. Wow,just amazeing. I/We wrote the book Christo and Jeanne - Claudes local youth. Its a 40 page book explaining what it was like for me to walk behind Christo and Jeanne - Claude,starting in Cotati,California. 24.5 miles to the Pacific Ocean. My/Our book is on Display at the Chariels Shultz Museum. Thank You Christo and Jeanne - Claude.

    Posted by Larry on February 27,2009 | 07:18PM

    I had the honor to help erect Running Fence. I was living in Sonoma County at the time with a studio on the Russian River. As a beginning artist the chance to participate in such a project was thrilling. I appeared in the film made of the project, received one of the magnificent books and put a slip of paper into the time capsule which was interred at Valley Ford. The whole experience was thrilling and a highlight of my own art career.

    Posted by Jeanne Hansen on May 16,2009 | 02:54PM

    Post a Comment


    Name: (required)

    Email: (required)

    Comment:



    Advertisement

    Smithsonian Videos

    Counting Down for the Liftoff to the Moon

    Counting Down for the Liftoff to the Moon

    Photographer David Burnett focused his camera on the many tourists who flocked to Florida in 1969 to watch the launch of Apollo 11

    Lucian Perkins Images

    A Navy Plebe Re-Meets His Match

    Photojournalist Lucian Perkins reunites Naval Academy graduates Sandee Irwin and Don Holcomb, 30 years after his photo captured the new gender dynamics at the school

    Deploying the Wave Energy Buoy

    Deploying the Wave Energy Buoy

    See a prototype of a wave energy buoy bob up and down on the water’s surface as researchers from Oregon State University study its efficacy

    Nikita Khrushchevs Great American Tour

    Nikita Khrushchev's Great American Tour

    As part of a diplomatic mission, Soviet premier Nikita Khrushchev traveled across the United States, meeting Americans from New York to Iowa to California

    Terra Cotta Soldiers

    Uncovering the Terra Cotta Soldiers

    A curator from the Houston Museum of Natural Science explains how the terra cotta warriors were discovered and what they reveal about China’s Qin dynasty

    Advertisement

    Culturespotter

    New at Viva Mexico

    Mexico is home to 43 active volcanoes and over 10% of all living organisms. Discover Mexico's natural (and social) diversity in the all-new "Mexican Culture" section.

    Marketplace

    SmithsonianStore

    Night at the Museum Plush Monkey
    Item No. 67925

    Window Shopping

    Gifts, Gadgets and Great Finds!

    From Our Advertisers: Products, Offers and Free Info

    Travel & Adventure

    Backstage on Broadway

    Meet theater professionals and see three Broadway's hits including Billy Elliot and Next to Normal (Nov. 18 - 22, 2009)

    Sojourners

    Join Us

    Facebook

    Facebook

    Become a fan of Smithsonian magazine's official Facebook page!

    Twitter

    Follow Smithsonian magazine on Twitter

    In The Magazine

    July 2009 Issue Cover

    July 2009

    • On the March
    • Nikita in Hollywood
    • We Have Liftoff
    • Birth of a Robot
    • Catching a Wave

    View Table of Contents



    Smithsonian magazine presents

    6th Annual Smithsonian Photo Contest Winners

    Out of more than 17,000 entries contributed from around the world, Smithsonian and its readers select the year's best

    Smithsonian Connections

    Connect to Lincoln

    Smithsonian Connections Connects You To Abraham Lincoln. Share ideas, thoughts, and more.

    Smithsonian Journeys

    Lake Como and Villa del Balbianello, Villas and Vistas of the Italian Lake District Villas and Vistas of the Italian Lake District
    A stay amid romantic Lake Como and Lake Maggiore



    View full archiveRecent Issues

    • July 2009 Issue Cover
      Jul 2009

    • June 2009 Issue Cover
      Jun 2009

    • May 2009 Issue Cover
      May 2009

    Newsletter

    Sign up for regular email updates from Smithsonian magazine, including free newsletters, special offers and current news updates.

    Subscribe Now

    About Us

    Smithsonian.com expands on Smithsonian magazine's in-depth coverage of history, science, nature, the arts, travel, world culture and technology. Join us regularly as we take a dynamic and interactive approach to exploring modern and historic perspectives on the arts, sciences, nature, world culture and travel, including videos, blogs and a reader forum.

    Explore our Brands

    • goSmithsonian.com
    • Smithsonian Air & Space Museum
    • Smithsonian Institution
    • Smithsonian Catalogue
    • Smithsonian Journeys
    • Smithsonian Channel
    • Site Map
    • Privacy Policy
    • Copyright
    • About Smithsonian
    • Contact Us
    • Advertising
    • Reader Panel
    • Subscribe
    • RSS

    Smithsonian Institution

    Produced by Clickability