Matt Groening Reveals the Location of the Real Springfield
Twenty-five years after The Simpsons made their TV debut, the show's creator talks about Homer's odyssey—and his own
- By Claudia De La Roca
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So does that make you the number-one fool?
(Laughs) No, I wouldn’t say that. There are plenty of fools. I just admit it.
How typical is the Simpsons’ home of an American home? How has it changed?
I think what’s different is that Marge doesn’t work. She’s a stay-at-home mother and housewife, and for the most parts these days both parents work. So I think that’s a little bit of a throwback. Very early on we had the Simpsons always struggling for money, and as the show has gone on over the years we’ve tried to come up with more surprising and inventive plots. We’ve pretty much lost that struggling for money that we started with just in order to do whatever crazy high jinks we could think of. I kind of miss that.
You’ve spoken of the “the contradictions not acknowledged” in the sitcoms you watched as a kid. What were those contradictions between TV life and life under your roof?
In TV in the ’50s and ’60s everyone seemed very repressed. Children were unnaturally polite. My favorite character was Eddie Haskell in “Leave It to Beaver. He was so polite but blatantly false in his pretending to be nice to adults—that appealed to me. In the ’70s, and from then on, sitcom banter got so mean and sour that I was baffled. I always thought that half the time someone would say something in a sitcom, and it seemed like the spouse’s response should be, “I want a divorce.” That was the logical reply.
But no one got a divorce back then.
I’m just saying I didn’t like the bland dialogue of most of the ’50s and ’60s, and I also didn’t like the sour arguing that passed for comedy in the ’70s and ’80s. So “The Simpsons” is sort of somewhere in between.
Beyond the topography of Portland and the names of your family members, did you borrow the sensibility of your hometown or your coming-of-age years for The Simpsons?
People in Portland, and generally in the Northwest, think of themselves as independent. Oregon has no sales tax, no major military installations. Portland has turned into an incredibly friendly community with great food, great architecture, great city planning and a lot of beauty. The biggest park in the United States within the city limits is in Portland.
Have you seen “Portlandia”? What do you think of it?
If you would have told me back when I was growing up that there would be a hip comedy show based on hipster life in Portland Oregon, I wouldn’t have believed it. I think it’s a very funny show. It’s very sweet.
How often do you go back to Portland?
I go back to Portland a few times a year. My first stop is always Powell’s Books. It’s the biggest bookstore that I know of. And then I visit my family.
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THose of us that have or do live in springfield oregon and we said it was our springfield have been right. and not only is this a great honor to out town but we also have a great town in general.
Posted by Nikki on October 4,2012 | 03:48 AM
In ''Mobile Homer'' Homer was pumping his own gas, which you can't do in Oregon.
Posted by Daniel on July 29,2012 | 07:50 AM
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Posted by Martin on May 16,2012 | 02:31 AM
i am the biggest simpsons fan ever :]
Posted by Aaron Doiron on May 6,2012 | 05:32 PM
Call it biased but I loved this interview, it really cleared up some things for me, mostly the location of Springfield and the names of the characters, and my opinion is that Matt Groning and his team have created a timeless classic here that, as Fat Tony would say "cracks me so consistently, up." And, to all the people who think th Simpsons have lost their edge and "These days are nothing more than Matt Groening's retirement fund" let me just say: I pity you poor souls who don't derive pleasure from Homer's idiotic schemes, Marge's stereotypical TV-momming, Bart's extreme tendency to create havoc, Lisa's insightful thinking always being ignored, and Maggie's occasional strokes of baby genius. This ONE cartoon, I think is a whole lot more than just "stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh" as Homer Simpson would say. PS I am well aware that I sound like Smithers grovelling to Mr. Burns, so don't bother pointing that out.
Posted by Isabella A. on May 6,2012 | 06:23 AM
hey MATT GROENTNING im a fan n.1 of the simpsons i drew a pic of darcy and bart kissing and bart and greta in the simpsons tabale plese give me a email or call me but i live in brasil capatal
Posted by luke lucio on May 1,2012 | 08:29 PM
It's In Oregon! Matt Please Tell Me It's Right Or Wrong.
Posted by Miles on April 30,2012 | 06:38 PM
Well, I HAVE SEEN EVERY "The Simpson's" Episode, to date...Go Ahead Try And Stump Me.
Posted by on April 28,2012 | 01:10 PM
What an absurd comment from Groening: "Everything you can experience in Los Angeles, you can have a much better version of in Portland..." Portland's fine with me -- I love visiting. But Matt, please tell me where in Portland I can find the symphony that's better than the L.A. Philharmonic; or all of the museums that are better than the Getty, LACMA, the Norton Simon, the Japanese American, the Huntington, etc.; or a jazz club better than Catalina's or the Jazz Bakery; or the ocean 20 minutes away; or the desert 40 minutes away; or the finest of every type of ethnic food imaginable; or more cultures and languages than anywhere else in the world; or better universities than UCLA and USC; or better baseball than the Dodgers and Angels; or better live performances than at the Music Center, Pasadena Playhouse, and hundreds of small playhouses; or venues better than the Hollywood Bowl, the Ford Theater, or the Greek Theatre. Anytime you are ready to leave, I can drive you to the airport. You'll be leaving more room for those of us who understand Los Angeles; and there will be one less person who thinks L.A. is nothing more than a place to make a buck by turning out low-grade "entertainment."
Posted by Charles Soter on April 24,2012 | 11:37 PM
I agree with Cory... On his post of April the 15. I grew up in Kennewick, Wa.. Also know as the Tri-Cities because there are three cites next to each other you have know that by pretty much being a Local. It doesn't say Tri-Cities on a map... Kennewick, Pasco, Richland, is what it say on a map. Hanford a nuclar site just a little ways north back in world war 2 was very top secret and played a key role in world war 2.... If you look to the south of Kennewick.. There is a hill with one house on it... Its old and a Mansion. Hum could this possible be a coincidence... I'm going to laugh if it isn't growing up I always felt there was something really odd and too close to home feeling about the Simpsons.... I guess we will see if Matt ever reveals the truth...
Posted by Matthew Pearson on April 16,2012 | 01:42 AM
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Matt was born in Springfield, OR and grew up in Portland, so I always assumed is was Springfield. As for the nuclear power plant, there is also the Hanford site a few hours up the Columbia River in Washington. Portland has always been worried that the large amount of waste has polluted the Columbia River (which runs next to Portland)Hence the 3-eyed fishes? Just another theory in the mysteries of Springfield.
Posted by Cory on April 15,2012 | 12:31 AM
i want to have all the simpsons episodes because i love it!
Posted by thomas on April 14,2012 | 09:18 PM
So now he's backpedaling and is saying NOT Springfield OR. This guy's about as big a flip flopper as any Tom Dick or Harry politician. Loser! Make up your mind.
Posted by Shelbyville Native on April 13,2012 | 03:23 PM
Matt - the episode where Homer & Bart pretend to have Leporasy & end up in the colony in Hawaii will forever be in my mind & a favorite "war story", especially when the terrible twosome are sat sunning themselves & a light aircraft takes off from the nearby airfield, how true that is as I borrowed an PA-28 from Mauii & did a touch & go there on a flight around those magnificent islands 2 weeks after 9/11, I still wonder if that was my wife & I in the plane........
Posted by John on April 13,2012 | 09:04 AM
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