Matt Groening Reveals the Location of the Real Springfield
Twenty-five years after The Simpsons made their TV debut, the show's creator talks about Homer's odyssey—and his own
- By Claudia De La Roca
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You’ve never said it was named after Springfield, Oregon, before, have you?
I don’t want to ruin it for people, you know? Whenever people say it’s Springfield, Ohio, or Springfield, Massachusetts, or Springfield, wherever, I always go, “Yup, that’s right.”
You’re on record as loving your hometown. Is it all love or is there a little love-hate?
I loved growing up in Portland, but I also took it for granted. Now, I look back and realize how idyllic a place it was. My family lived on a long, windy road on a little dead-end street called Evergreen Terrace—also the name of the street the Simpsons live on—and in order to visit any friends I had to walk at least a mile through the woods to get to their house.
But when I say idyllic, I mean the external circumstances of my childhood were pretty pleasant. That does not take into account that I was bored out of mind from the first day of first grade. Also, I was bullied. If you use certain words that can only be gotten by reading a book or two, that somehow enrages a certain kind of lug. When I was in fourth grade, these older kids surrounded me one day, and they told me they were going to beat me up after school. Knowing I was going to get beat up, I smashed one kid in the face as hard as I could, and then I got beaten up. The next day, all the kids were brought in to the school office, and they all had to apologize to me, and I just hated their guts.
Would you like to call them out by name now?
No. But maybe they are characters named after themselves on “The Simpsons.”
What did “home” mean to you growing up?
Home growing up meant certain rituals that seem to be lost these days, which is about a family being in the same place at the same time. At dinner we all sat down for dinner together. Unless I committed some type of infraction, and then I had to eat at the top of the basement stairs.
What do you think of Portland then and Portland now?
One thing that hasn’t changed is that people in Portland are in complete denial about how much it rains there.
Do you plan on moving back someday?
Yes. The only reason to live in Los Angeles, where I’ve been since the late ’70s, is if you have something to do with the entertainment industry. Everything you can experience in Los Angeles, you can have a much better version of in Portland—including, very basically, the air you breathe.
Does your mom still live in your childhood home? If not, when was the last time you visited it?
I visited my childhood home about two years ago. I was snapping a picture of it, and the owner came out and invited me in. It was pretty much as I remember it, except what was incredibly spacious to a little toddler now seemed so much smaller. The guy let me go down to my favorite place of terror, which was the basement. My father had a place where he developed film called “the dark room,” but to me that was all it was—the dark room. It was the scariest place in the house, and it gave me a lot of nightmares. I had to go back down and look at the dark room, and I realized that it was just a dusty—dark—cobwebbed little room in the corner of the basement.
What did your father do before he became a filmmaker?
He grew up on a Mennonite farm in Kansas, speaking only German until he went to school. My father then ended up as a bomber pilot flying a B-17 during World War II. After the war, he was a surfer, filmmaker and ardent amateur basketball player. He perfected a basketball shot that he could shoot—without looking—over his head and consistently make from the top of the key. He made that shot for 30 years.
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THose of us that have or do live in springfield oregon and we said it was our springfield have been right. and not only is this a great honor to out town but we also have a great town in general.
Posted by Nikki on October 4,2012 | 03:48 AM
In ''Mobile Homer'' Homer was pumping his own gas, which you can't do in Oregon.
Posted by Daniel on July 29,2012 | 07:50 AM
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Posted by Martin on May 16,2012 | 02:31 AM
i am the biggest simpsons fan ever :]
Posted by Aaron Doiron on May 6,2012 | 05:32 PM
Call it biased but I loved this interview, it really cleared up some things for me, mostly the location of Springfield and the names of the characters, and my opinion is that Matt Groning and his team have created a timeless classic here that, as Fat Tony would say "cracks me so consistently, up." And, to all the people who think th Simpsons have lost their edge and "These days are nothing more than Matt Groening's retirement fund" let me just say: I pity you poor souls who don't derive pleasure from Homer's idiotic schemes, Marge's stereotypical TV-momming, Bart's extreme tendency to create havoc, Lisa's insightful thinking always being ignored, and Maggie's occasional strokes of baby genius. This ONE cartoon, I think is a whole lot more than just "stupid drawings that give you a cheap laugh" as Homer Simpson would say. PS I am well aware that I sound like Smithers grovelling to Mr. Burns, so don't bother pointing that out.
Posted by Isabella A. on May 6,2012 | 06:23 AM
hey MATT GROENTNING im a fan n.1 of the simpsons i drew a pic of darcy and bart kissing and bart and greta in the simpsons tabale plese give me a email or call me but i live in brasil capatal
Posted by luke lucio on May 1,2012 | 08:29 PM
It's In Oregon! Matt Please Tell Me It's Right Or Wrong.
Posted by Miles on April 30,2012 | 06:38 PM
Well, I HAVE SEEN EVERY "The Simpson's" Episode, to date...Go Ahead Try And Stump Me.
Posted by on April 28,2012 | 01:10 PM
What an absurd comment from Groening: "Everything you can experience in Los Angeles, you can have a much better version of in Portland..." Portland's fine with me -- I love visiting. But Matt, please tell me where in Portland I can find the symphony that's better than the L.A. Philharmonic; or all of the museums that are better than the Getty, LACMA, the Norton Simon, the Japanese American, the Huntington, etc.; or a jazz club better than Catalina's or the Jazz Bakery; or the ocean 20 minutes away; or the desert 40 minutes away; or the finest of every type of ethnic food imaginable; or more cultures and languages than anywhere else in the world; or better universities than UCLA and USC; or better baseball than the Dodgers and Angels; or better live performances than at the Music Center, Pasadena Playhouse, and hundreds of small playhouses; or venues better than the Hollywood Bowl, the Ford Theater, or the Greek Theatre. Anytime you are ready to leave, I can drive you to the airport. You'll be leaving more room for those of us who understand Los Angeles; and there will be one less person who thinks L.A. is nothing more than a place to make a buck by turning out low-grade "entertainment."
Posted by Charles Soter on April 24,2012 | 11:37 PM
I agree with Cory... On his post of April the 15. I grew up in Kennewick, Wa.. Also know as the Tri-Cities because there are three cites next to each other you have know that by pretty much being a Local. It doesn't say Tri-Cities on a map... Kennewick, Pasco, Richland, is what it say on a map. Hanford a nuclar site just a little ways north back in world war 2 was very top secret and played a key role in world war 2.... If you look to the south of Kennewick.. There is a hill with one house on it... Its old and a Mansion. Hum could this possible be a coincidence... I'm going to laugh if it isn't growing up I always felt there was something really odd and too close to home feeling about the Simpsons.... I guess we will see if Matt ever reveals the truth...
Posted by Matthew Pearson on April 16,2012 | 01:42 AM
I could have sworn I read somewhere that Matt was born in Springfield, OR and grew up in Portland, so I always assumed is was Springfield. As for the nuclear power plant, there is also the Hanford site a few hours up the Columbia River in Washington. Portland has always been worried that the large amount of waste has polluted the Columbia River (which runs next to Portland)Hence the 3-eyed fishes? Just another theory in the mysteries of Springfield.
Posted by Cory on April 15,2012 | 12:31 AM
i want to have all the simpsons episodes because i love it!
Posted by thomas on April 14,2012 | 09:18 PM
So now he's backpedaling and is saying NOT Springfield OR. This guy's about as big a flip flopper as any Tom Dick or Harry politician. Loser! Make up your mind.
Posted by Shelbyville Native on April 13,2012 | 03:23 PM
Matt - the episode where Homer & Bart pretend to have Leporasy & end up in the colony in Hawaii will forever be in my mind & a favorite "war story", especially when the terrible twosome are sat sunning themselves & a light aircraft takes off from the nearby airfield, how true that is as I borrowed an PA-28 from Mauii & did a touch & go there on a flight around those magnificent islands 2 weeks after 9/11, I still wonder if that was my wife & I in the plane........
Posted by John on April 13,2012 | 09:04 AM
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